You might remember Sam Turco from the early years. Before she left us for Boulder and Aaron and Mountains and dogs. Well, this is Scotty and Sam, just talking. About life, politics, family, friendships, literature, music, etc. You may not be interested if you didn't listen back then. There isn't much about actual running. It's just friends catching up for friends. We thought the TJM Nation would enjoy it. Bonus: the recording of her wedding ceremony (officiated by Scotty) is at the end.